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		By: shevin		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I as a south african do not see how this combats the injustice of apartheid , I mean apartheid is a specific race being superior than others. What my country needs is equal job opportunities and jobs being acquired with qualification,skill and experience and not race or skin colour]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I as a south african do not see how this combats the injustice of apartheid , I mean apartheid is a specific race being superior than others. What my country needs is equal job opportunities and jobs being acquired with qualification,skill and experience and not race or skin colour</p>
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		By: wit----		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem with the blacks in South Africa is they want instant gratification. They want everything but arent prepared to work for it. So they introduce BEE which allows them to be at the top, while the white (demoted) people below them do their job.   
  
Unfortunately what they dont seem to understand, is that by doing this, they are just driving more and more white people away, leaving only blacks to run the businesses, which is fine in theory, but the fact that white people are doing their jobs means that they are not educated enough to do the jobs themselves. So when all the whites are gone, South Africa is going to be the new Zimbabwe. All the blacks will have their lovely positions and houses etc they always wanted, but now they need to maintain it all and keep it running 100%.  
  
I&#039;d love to be a fly on the wall when that happens. Then they going to see how stupid they really were  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the blacks in South Africa is they want instant gratification. They want everything but arent prepared to work for it. So they introduce BEE which allows them to be at the top, while the white (demoted) people below them do their job.   </p>
<p>Unfortunately what they dont seem to understand, is that by doing this, they are just driving more and more white people away, leaving only blacks to run the businesses, which is fine in theory, but the fact that white people are doing their jobs means that they are not educated enough to do the jobs themselves. So when all the whites are gone, South Africa is going to be the new Zimbabwe. All the blacks will have their lovely positions and houses etc they always wanted, but now they need to maintain it all and keep it running 100%.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to be a fly on the wall when that happens. Then they going to see how stupid they really were  </p>
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		By: Whitie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whitie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sa-austin.com/blog/2010/02/when-will-the-racial-bee-stuff-end-152.html#comments/793&quot;&gt;Biko&lt;/a&gt;.

Biko, you are right. 
The Bantu Education System, the Groups Area Act, the Morality Act, these were all from the pit of hell. And a white South African I am glad it is gone. 
Yes. Many whites stood up against apartheid!!! 
Google &#034;White heroes of the Anti-apartheid struggle&#034; and you will see there were many white people against oppression. 
Why are white people now being oppressed? There is no system in place to say &#034;this person did not oppress&#034; or &#034;this person did not benefit from apartheid.&#034; 
No, whites are bad. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.sa-austin.com/blog/2010/02/when-will-the-racial-bee-stuff-end-152.html#comments/793">Biko</a>.</p>
<p>Biko, you are right.<br />
The Bantu Education System, the Groups Area Act, the Morality Act, these were all from the pit of hell. And a white South African I am glad it is gone.<br />
Yes. Many whites stood up against apartheid!!!<br />
Google &quot;White heroes of the Anti-apartheid struggle&quot; and you will see there were many white people against oppression.<br />
Why are white people now being oppressed? There is no system in place to say &quot;this person did not oppress&quot; or &quot;this person did not benefit from apartheid.&quot;<br />
No, whites are bad. </p>
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		By: Whitie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whitie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sa-austin.com/blog/2010/02/when-will-the-racial-bee-stuff-end-152.html#comments/205&quot;&gt;Ali G&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow man, you really have it in for the whites, don&#039;t you? 
There is a saying &#034;An eye for an eye and everybody ends up blind...&#034; 
That is what is happening in South Africa at the moment. The Black people has been hurt, now they want to hurt all the white people. 
I grew up in Apartheid South Africa... I lived in Mmabatho (Bophuthatswana home state). 
My mother was a teacher at a multi racial school and was there because she was a very good teacher and not because of her colour. Many times we ate pap because a teacher does not earn all that much. I finished school in 1994. When it all changed. 
My mother lost her job. Because she was white and could not get a &#034;Golden handshake&#034; because of the ANC and the &#034;Home lands&#034; politics. 
So, I could not go and study. 
What did I benefit from apartheid? NOTHING!!! 
Now, you are saying &#034;And like any sin, you reap what you sow... and wow, white South Africans are feeling it.&#034; 
Please tell me what did I sow? What part did I play in Apartheid? Show me which black people I oppressed? I did not even vote for the part that oppressed these people!!! 
But, I will tell you what is happening at the moment! 
I can not get a job because I am a white male and I am uneducated to top it all. 
So, I&#039;m trying to start my own business in tourism. 
Wow, there are many semi-, quasi- and parastatal organs that helps SME (small and medium enterprises) and young entrepreneurs... if they are black!!! 
I have seen how my peers excel in their business. They get great opportunities and there are so many options for them... because they are black!!! 
My business is not going anywhere... because I am not black!!! 
The other day I saw a great opportunity to get at least one step higher... I approached the company and asked if I can quote for the job. 
Even though the company has a problem with their current supplier, even though I could have done it at a better rate, even though I would have given them better &#038; personal service they said no. I am not black. 
Now, Ali G, please tell me what I did to deserve this. 
Ali G, please tell me what I sowed to reap this. 
Ali G, tell me what I should tell my wife and child when I can not provide for them, when they are &#034;feeling it&#034; as you put it. What do I tell my baby girl? 
Sorry baby, you can not go to study because you are white... 
Eish, that sounds like something a black man said to his daughter. &#034;Sorry baby, you are black&#034; 
There is not equalizing in this! Some politicians are getting very rich because of BBEEE and the majority of black people are still as poor as they were 20 years ago! 
What is happening at the moment is there is a growing resentment in young white people. 
I&#039;m not a racist and have some very good black friends... 
but, I can tell you this... the more people tell me I can not do business because I am white the more I get angry and start to hate the system... which is put in place by black people! 
How long do you think I can take it before I become a racist? 
An eye for an eye is not the solution! 
The big rich whites does not feel BBEEE. They don&#039;t care! 
The majority of the black population don&#039;t feel BBEEE... 
Why are we continuing with a system that is against our constitution??? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.sa-austin.com/blog/2010/02/when-will-the-racial-bee-stuff-end-152.html#comments/205">Ali G</a>.</p>
<p>Wow man, you really have it in for the whites, don&#039;t you?<br />
There is a saying &quot;An eye for an eye and everybody ends up blind&#8230;&quot;<br />
That is what is happening in South Africa at the moment. The Black people has been hurt, now they want to hurt all the white people.<br />
I grew up in Apartheid South Africa&#8230; I lived in Mmabatho (Bophuthatswana home state).<br />
My mother was a teacher at a multi racial school and was there because she was a very good teacher and not because of her colour. Many times we ate pap because a teacher does not earn all that much. I finished school in 1994. When it all changed.<br />
My mother lost her job. Because she was white and could not get a &quot;Golden handshake&quot; because of the ANC and the &quot;Home lands&quot; politics.<br />
So, I could not go and study.<br />
What did I benefit from apartheid? NOTHING!!!<br />
Now, you are saying &quot;And like any sin, you reap what you sow&#8230; and wow, white South Africans are feeling it.&quot;<br />
Please tell me what did I sow? What part did I play in Apartheid? Show me which black people I oppressed? I did not even vote for the part that oppressed these people!!!<br />
But, I will tell you what is happening at the moment!<br />
I can not get a job because I am a white male and I am uneducated to top it all.<br />
So, I&#039;m trying to start my own business in tourism.<br />
Wow, there are many semi-, quasi- and parastatal organs that helps SME (small and medium enterprises) and young entrepreneurs&#8230; if they are black!!!<br />
I have seen how my peers excel in their business. They get great opportunities and there are so many options for them&#8230; because they are black!!!<br />
My business is not going anywhere&#8230; because I am not black!!!<br />
The other day I saw a great opportunity to get at least one step higher&#8230; I approached the company and asked if I can quote for the job.<br />
Even though the company has a problem with their current supplier, even though I could have done it at a better rate, even though I would have given them better &amp; personal service they said no. I am not black.<br />
Now, Ali G, please tell me what I did to deserve this.<br />
Ali G, please tell me what I sowed to reap this.<br />
Ali G, tell me what I should tell my wife and child when I can not provide for them, when they are &quot;feeling it&quot; as you put it. What do I tell my baby girl?<br />
Sorry baby, you can not go to study because you are white&#8230;<br />
Eish, that sounds like something a black man said to his daughter. &quot;Sorry baby, you are black&quot;<br />
There is not equalizing in this! Some politicians are getting very rich because of BBEEE and the majority of black people are still as poor as they were 20 years ago!<br />
What is happening at the moment is there is a growing resentment in young white people.<br />
I&#039;m not a racist and have some very good black friends&#8230;<br />
but, I can tell you this&#8230; the more people tell me I can not do business because I am white the more I get angry and start to hate the system&#8230; which is put in place by black people!<br />
How long do you think I can take it before I become a racist?<br />
An eye for an eye is not the solution!<br />
The big rich whites does not feel BBEEE. They don&#039;t care!<br />
The majority of the black population don&#039;t feel BBEEE&#8230;<br />
Why are we continuing with a system that is against our constitution??? </p>
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		By: rokko		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 12:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sa-austin.com/blog/2010/02/when-will-the-racial-bee-stuff-end-152.html#comments/793&quot;&gt;Biko&lt;/a&gt;.

Biko, Why was it necessary for a white government that you claim to have hated blacks to build any schools for blacks?  Why didn`t you build your own schools if the Bantu educational system was so inferior. Blacks had the chance to develop their own countries under the homeland system.  Give the Afrikaner that chance and you will have one of the strongest countries in the world, without building them anything. ]]></description>
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<p>Biko, Why was it necessary for a white government that you claim to have hated blacks to build any schools for blacks?  Why didn`t you build your own schools if the Bantu educational system was so inferior. Blacks had the chance to develop their own countries under the homeland system.  Give the Afrikaner that chance and you will have one of the strongest countries in the world, without building them anything. </p>
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		By: Rokko		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rokko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 11:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sa-austin.com/blog/2010/02/when-will-the-racial-bee-stuff-end-152.html#comments/205&quot;&gt;Ali G&lt;/a&gt;.

You black resists don&#8217;t know what your talking about.  ALL the infrastructure that SA uses to stay one of the richest countries in Africa was built and maintained by White people from Apartheid.  All that success was because of apartheid and the sweat of white Afrikaners you just took it from them in a complex co-op organized by the mining magnates&#8217; in London.  When will you thank apartheid for protecting you from the communists, British imperialists and for building what was safe and secure country? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.sa-austin.com/blog/2010/02/when-will-the-racial-bee-stuff-end-152.html#comments/205">Ali G</a>.</p>
<p>You black resists don&rsquo;t know what your talking about.  ALL the infrastructure that SA uses to stay one of the richest countries in Africa was built and maintained by White people from Apartheid.  All that success was because of apartheid and the sweat of white Afrikaners you just took it from them in a complex co-op organized by the mining magnates&rsquo; in London.  When will you thank apartheid for protecting you from the communists, British imperialists and for building what was safe and secure country? </p>
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		By: Jason		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This BEE policies is sick,im coloured(being benefited by The policy) i think race of a person should not be considered,i think it should be ilegal to consider race of a person and hand him/her a job or tender cause of that. Its sad how white people is being treated by THIS REGIME ,i pray that america or nato intervene here.and end this.all should be treated equally and then and only then we could be great as the USA ..bt now i hate the government if there is a war i would be in the front line ... ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This BEE policies is sick,im coloured(being benefited by The policy) i think race of a person should not be considered,i think it should be ilegal to consider race of a person and hand him/her a job or tender cause of that. Its sad how white people is being treated by THIS REGIME ,i pray that america or nato intervene here.and end this.all should be treated equally and then and only then we could be great as the USA ..bt now i hate the government if there is a war i would be in the front line &#8230; </p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sylvia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 06:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This whole racial issue affects all of us on a daily basis. Now we cant date white guys because thier parents wont approve of us black girls??  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole racial issue affects all of us on a daily basis. Now we cant date white guys because thier parents wont approve of us black girls??  </p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loved reading this whole debate.  I am a white female business owner in South Africa.  The reason for this is that I could not find a job since I left college in 1994 as BEE was in place.  I have been forced to start my own business.  I have now 40 people in my employ (that would not have jobs if I did not start this company)  95% of my staff is black or coloured (previously disadvantaged is a word they love throwing around)  As one of the manufacturers and suppliers to the corporate industry we now have to adhere to and get BBEEE ratings.  I have spent the last two months more time on filling in these forms and getting them copies of my employee records and ledger accounts etc. 
 
Going through this process is a whole nightmare.  In stead of being out there and attanding to my business to ensure my staff has work to do, I have to spend so much time on this.  And at the end of it, if my BBEEE rating is not good enough the corporate sector they might not buy from me.  What does this mean....... another 40 families will not have an income...... 
 
I have only one question:  like Bernie said:  WHEN IS IT ENOUGH???? 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved reading this whole debate.  I am a white female business owner in South Africa.  The reason for this is that I could not find a job since I left college in 1994 as BEE was in place.  I have been forced to start my own business.  I have now 40 people in my employ (that would not have jobs if I did not start this company)  95% of my staff is black or coloured (previously disadvantaged is a word they love throwing around)  As one of the manufacturers and suppliers to the corporate industry we now have to adhere to and get BBEEE ratings.  I have spent the last two months more time on filling in these forms and getting them copies of my employee records and ledger accounts etc. </p>
<p>Going through this process is a whole nightmare.  In stead of being out there and attanding to my business to ensure my staff has work to do, I have to spend so much time on this.  And at the end of it, if my BBEEE rating is not good enough the corporate sector they might not buy from me.  What does this mean&#8230;&#8230;. another 40 families will not have an income&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>I have only one question:  like Bernie said:  WHEN IS IT ENOUGH???? </p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 05:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Biko 
The South African government is currently dominated by a minority of blacks who use laws to disenfranchise the majority poor and minority races under a policy of financial racial segregation using a multitude of techniques including inferior education which as it stands is far inferior to world standards (inferior facilities, teachers, and with inferior textbooks) from 1996 to present. This educational blunder destroys all opportunities for all racial groups 
 
You Biko are a fine example of the current education system Every website needs its semi-literate trolls 
 
&quot;DID ANY WHITE PERSON STAND UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH&quot; 
Is Joe Slovo, Jeremy Cronin, Hellen Zille (who has more Aparteid credentials than the ANCYL combined) black?.  
 
The question now stands: 
&quot;WHAT BLACK PERSON CAN STAND UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH?&quot; ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Biko</p>
<p>The South African government is currently dominated by a minority of blacks who use laws to disenfranchise the majority poor and minority races under a policy of financial racial segregation using a multitude of techniques including inferior education which as it stands is far inferior to world standards (inferior facilities, teachers, and with inferior textbooks) from 1996 to present. This educational blunder destroys all opportunities for all racial groups</p>
<p>You Biko are a fine example of the current education system Every website needs its semi-literate trolls</p>
<p>&#8220;DID ANY WHITE PERSON STAND UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH&#8221;</p>
<p>Is Joe Slovo, Jeremy Cronin, Hellen Zille (who has more Aparteid credentials than the ANCYL combined) black?. </p>
<p>The question now stands:</p>
<p>&#8220;WHAT BLACK PERSON CAN STAND UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH?&#8221; </p>
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